QotD: Paying Pro Athletes

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no if they don't like the salary they can always find a different job, oh I forgot they're all idiots and can't find real work, or they wouldn't be a pro athlete to begin with, as for what's fair and what they deserve, how about a nickel.
Well said LOL.
thanks, you should read my post on this at.
If we were to go by your mathematical reasoning--shouldn't we be paying our Troops more as well? They just do above and beyond the call of duty, work overwhelming odds, stare at the face of death near everyday, have huge amounts of patriotism, earn their minimal paychecks and are told come back/do it again next week. They do this with pride.

Where do the salaries end? When is enough enough? Five years we need A-rod making 120$ Million per swing?
Wa
@Chris: Beyond the call of duty? They volunteer to die for the wishes of whatever current administration is in office. We already treat them too well. Hell, they are not even protecting this country from anything. They are merely out to collect a paycheck. I feel no sympathy for our troops, merely pity, if they were dumb enough to join the institution after the way this executive has acted since 2000.

Unfortunately they are not "serving" anyone but themselves. The troops don't entertain, educate, or enlighten the world. They are merely tools for two simple purposes: To destroy human life and to bankrupt this country over irrational fears.

In a capitalist society, the market should determine the value. If the market deems A-Rod worth $120 million per swing, then who are we to argue? In any case the amount will not be determined by you and I. It will be determined by the MLB and their corporate sponsors.

By the way, the analogy is not the same because we are forced to pay for troops we don't want through taxes that are nearly impossible to have repealed in a representative government. That is not the case when it comes to sports. Fans can vote with their pocketbook. If you think they are paying too much to their employees, don't ever turn on a channel with a sport on it and don't attend any of the games.

While some of you may not like sports, some of us don't mind being entertained at a cost. The diversion from the mess this country has become is often worth the price.
Why do you think Senators when they attend funerals don't mention that they volunteered for duty? Just because it's flat out not politically correct and it would be political suicide. I venture to say that you say that as you've never felt the other end of a Soviet made Ak-47. Must be nice living in the world of Peace, love, and flowers but, unfortunately, this is not the reality.
Holy hell. You can justify paying professional athletes - who are nothing more than glorified hobbists - millions of dollars, then turn around and blatantly disrespect our troops? Wow. If I were a better woman, I'd probably leave it at that, but seeing as how I inherited the temper of a Marine Corps Gunnery Sergeant, it's highly unlikely that I'd not say something.

If you don't agree with the politics in the White House, by all means, dissent. I'll be the first one to hand you a megaphone and show you the soap box. When it comes to our troops, that's different..

My father wasn't some mindless, soulless zombie who fell into the military because it was a last resort. My father was an honorable man who loved what he did. The 20 years that he spent in the Marine Corps, he was the epitome of what a Marine should be. He was a favorite of former Commandants who would make special visits to where my father was in the field with the rest of Alpha Company and KAAT Platoon on Camp Lejeune. He was painted, photographed, and profiled by many during his career for his dedication and his drive to serve his country.

I grew up around Marines, around Jarheads who had been living and breathing that life since before I was born, and around ones who were young enough to be an older brother to me. I have friends who are serving overseas currently, away from their girlfriends/wives/kids, and I lost a very close friend in a suicide bombing in Mosul in December 2004. I grew up on military bases and spent my childhood learning the most important lessons about life from a man who willingly wore the uniform and carried the weapons and, as you so eloquently put it, was "merely [a] tool for two simple purposes: To destroy human life and to bankrupt this country over irrational fears."

You know what? If you ask me, the men and women who sign up to serve our country aren't stupid or deserve pity. Instead, they should be applauded by people like us who weren't brave enough or strong enough to do the job ourselves.

Men like my father, and people like my active duty friends Nick, Kyle, Jason, Cris, Bradley, Josh, Matthew, David, Lauren, and Amanda, don't deserve this kind of generalization and blatant disregard from someone who can justify paying someone millions of dollars for throwing a football.

Hate war and think what we're doing over there is bullshit? Great. Me too. Have more respect for professional athletes who whine and bitch about their multi-million dollar contracts than for our troops? I gotta disagree with you there.
Wa
@Chris: Actually the world is a safer place than the folks in politics would like you to believe. Fear sells any policy decision in America. Just because stating facts is political suicide is no reason to hold them back. Who are you to say that I haven't been at the gunpoint of an AK - 47?

@Shannon: Your argument would hold more sway with me if I were someone who did not grow up as the son of a retired military man with 22 years of experience. I know exactly what the majority of military people are like. They are usually mindless zombies that do only what they are told. There are many countries who do not have this relentless military mindset that we seem to hold dear as a country. Those countries tend to have less violence, better education, better health care, and generally more active citizens. The military culture hasn't made us a stronger and more unified as a country in a very long time. Rather it has weakened our resolve. We waste money funding a military to defend against fears that in hindsight always turn out to be toothless or could be handled diplomatically. The last meaningful military engagement that improved our economy, diplomacy, and standing was World War II.

Also, I don't know what, if any professional athletes you are watching, but honestly the ones on teams I follow do not complain about what they earn and are quite happy to have the opportunity to do something they love for a living. But then again, all people who work in a field they enjoy and have an affinity for are basically hobbyists.

Sounds like your Dad was a great marketing gimmick for the military. Besides, I know from many of the men my father served with that career military men are generally in the military that long because the retirement pay is so nice, and because it serves their resume well for any future political office or appointments. Who wants to jump ship at the eight year mark when you know that if you just stay another twelve years you can get a free check every month for the rest of your life.

Did you also happen to think that if your friend hadn't been foolish enough to have joined the military at all that they wouldn't have been in Mosul in the first place?

As I have explained, anyone in the arts and entertainment who make billions of people happy and inspired on a daily basis is worth more than the average military jarhead. Just out of curiosity, how many of those ruthless Blackwater mercenaries are former American military men? I'll tell you that at least one of them, the CEO Erik Prince is a former Navy SEAL. Their contract in Iraq was revoked as of September 17th for killing civilians without following standard rules of engagement.

Many of their troops are ex-military. What does that tell you about the character of men we are molding in the military. That the military builds character is a fallacy. It creates robots who do what they are told no matter how much duress you put them under.

Dwight Eisenhower, a well known military man himself once warned us about "we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex..Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together." Just a thought.

Now as this post was about professional athletes and their pay and has spun out of control onto subjects that are not related, I am going to close comments.